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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright, I'm not sure about this, but did you take out from the Underwood Mansion scene (I think) the part about the two orc chefs arguing about the difference between 'burned' and 'burnt', or am I crazy and is that in one of the shorts?
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exodus wrote:
Alright, I'm not sure about this, but did you take out from the Underwood Mansion scene (I think) the part about the two orc chefs arguing about the difference between 'burned' and 'burnt', or am I crazy and is that in one of the shorts?


No, I remember them, the one scolding the other for mispronouncing it... Did he take it out? Sad
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I think he did :C. I'm pretty sure that they're exactly the same though, and it's not a personal thing whether you use burned or burnt.
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I seem to recall that that was still in there....
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, it's in there, oops Embarassed . One of my (many) favorite parts.
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

(take a bow heloly Smile )
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Heloly



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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

<Bows>

I still hold that burnt is the passive/descriptive form and burned is the active verb form.
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saying sentences with those two words in them over and over, I have to agree.

*edit* Wait, what about "you burnt the chicken"?
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMHO, "You burned the chicken" sounds right. Burnt doesn't quite seem to work in that context.

This all is coming from someone who has a subjective interpretation of grammar and frequently uses both US and UK spellings of words, often switching in the course of the same sentence.
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The chicken has been burnt. (Passive)
That chicken is burnt. (Descriptive)
He burned the chicken! (Active.)
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The chicken has been burnt. --> Passive present perfect tense
That chicken is burnt. --> Passive Present simple tense
He burned the chicken! --> Past simple tense

I don't know what you meant by 'descriptive', Heloly. It's just passive :S.

I dug up my 'Chief Tenses of the Irregular Verbs':

To burn - burnt - burnt
Inf. - Past simple - past particle

So your third is wrong too, it should be burnt...

Surprisingly, I just thought burned/burnt were both good as past participles, but now only burnt seems to be valid.

From online dictionaries, however, both the past simple and the past participle can be burned/burnt. Very Happy

It's a preference then. Smile
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked

I honestly don't think that allowing stuff like 'past present simple passive descriptive tense' and 'perfect future active irregular past perfect tense' to exist helps the English language in any way. There's good grammar...and then there's insanity


(I also haven't slept in three days and every little annoyance is setting me off right now...)
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You haven't slept in 3 days? You must be really burnt out 0.o.
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exodus bad bad exodus bad *facepalm*
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

True, burned might have worked better there.
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